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me again
08-28-2003, 06:43 PM
If you want to read the full legal case about the 10 commandments that are posted in the Alabama supreme court, then click here (http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/religion/glsrthmre70103opn.pdf). :no:
It is a long, informative, sad read. :doh: :devil1:
This cannot bode well for the spiritual health of our nation.
How long can we continue to exalt ourselves over our creator, by saying that our laws are greater than His?:( :(
PIC to all,
John
me again
08-29-2003, 01:22 PM
I am concerned that if the United States rejects the 10 commandments (God's law), than His divine protection will be lifted from this nation.
:bang: :freak:
Eveningstar
08-29-2003, 02:32 PM
I'm surprised God's people have had as much success as they have in forming the government in this country...We owe a lot to Pilgrims and those who did not seek freedom so as to dissent from Our Lord but those who stood firm in spite of the will of the mob mentality that sought everything but His Will once they tasted freedom that came at the price of bloodshed.
I believe the Core is still solid and trustworthy, and they know what they are doing and they are doing it for Him.
Why are they having so much difficulty? Because, for the most part the people are failing the government, not the government failing the people.
On Judgement Day, we will know more and Moore:)
Yahvist
08-31-2003, 01:51 PM
Reading my Religious Liberty newsletter from James Standish, I noticed that even more of a false arbrital embossment was employed in putting up those 10 Commandments in marble. The judge made short work of each of the commandments by abbreviating them. Not printing them according to how they are in the original Hebrew to be read in English.
Subject: Religious Liberty Update
From : James Standish
Judge Moore's version of the Ten Commandments were edited down which removed some of their meaning. For example, the Sabbath commandment was reduced to "Remember the Sabbath" with no mention of the seventh day and creation. This raises the question, who gave Judge Moore the job of editing God's work? Judge Moore's monument also differs significantly from the stylized version of the Ten Commandments in the freeze in the US Supreme Court, which includes representations of a variety of important contributions to modern law, including Menes, Hammurabi, Moses, Solomon, Lycurgus, Solon, Draco, Confucius, Octavian, Napoleon Bonaparte, Justice Marshall, William Blackstone, Hugo Grotius, Louis IX, King John, Charlemagne, Muhammad and Justinian.
Christians should not be looking to the government to install truncated versions of the Ten Commandments in court houses. Rather, we need to ask Christ to write the full,unedited Ten Commandments on our hearts.
James Standish
Yahvist
P.s. Many thanks to our Eveningstar for providing this excellent quote found in the other topic thread on this subject......
"No man is a good citizen unless he so acts as to show that he actually uses the Ten Commandments, and translates the Golden Rule into his life conduct."
--Theodore Roosevelt
I value the meaning of this quote for it’s terseness of relating the right solution to the problem of where the 10 Commandments are to be put up for display.
Eveningstar
08-31-2003, 03:59 PM
Excellent points. I did not know they were edited.
The Ten Commandments belong written on our hearts, as you say and tied about our necks...
Pro 1:9 For they [shall be] an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck.
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Pro 3:3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:
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Pro 6:21 Bind them continually upon thine heart, [and] tie them about thy neck.
Either way, the media frenzy over the issue will force people to consider the Ten Commandments and Their Origin.
Phl 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
Eurogal
09-01-2003, 01:13 PM
EveningStar,
You and Y- have gotten the essence of this media frenzy, as you said, in the right light. There is a Godly purpose to put attention on the real keeping of the Commandments of God as he originally purposed them to be.
I remember watching the facial tension in the face of the man outside the courthouse screaming with full indignation "Put it back! PUT IT BACK !!" I could imagine if he had a gun in his hand he would have gone and shot the movers death in their tracks, so mad was he.
E-gal
Eveningstar
09-01-2003, 06:21 PM
"There are those who think Judge Moore is an extremist and he may be but it should be pointed out that moderates never accomplish anything; it is the extremists on either end of the spectrum who change the world. The American Revolution was won by extremists. ... Extremism, as Barry Goldwater pointed out, is no vice when it is exercised in defense of liberty. Judge Moore apparently agrees with that assertion. He may lose this battle but in the process he may rally enough troops, persons who ordinarily sit on their hands, to win the war. It wouldn't be the first time." --Lyn Nofziger
"For half a century the fanciful tailors of revisionist jurisprudence have been working to strip the public sector naked of every vestige of God and morality. They have done so based on fake readings and inconsistent applications of the First Amendment. They have said it is all right for the U. S. Supreme Court to publicly place the Ten Commandments on its walls, for Congress to open in prayer and for state capitols to have chaplains -- as long as the words and ideas communicated by such do not really mean what they purport to communicate. They have trotted out before the public using words never mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, like 'separation of church and state,' to advocate, not the legitimate jurisdictional separation between the church and state, but the illegitimate separation of God and state." --Roy S. Moore, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama
"...[T]he unelected, unaccountable judiciary, who are appointed for life, have become so powerful that no one can rein them in or challenge their determination to recast this country, except the Congress. In July, they declared sodomy to be a right protected by the Constitution, ruling out morality as a basis for law, and making it likely that the definition of marriage is about to include same-sex 'marriage' and then, by natural progression, marriage for any number of participants and both genders. ...[T]he federal judiciary is out of control. It is not subject to checks and balances, intended by the Framers. The Congress has the Constitutional right to limit the power of the court, and it must do so. Senators must be urged to confirm conservative nominees to the bench who will strictly interpret the Constitution and not create these 'court-made laws.' Specifically, in this instance, Congress should pass legislation immediately to protect the Ten Commandments from any and all assaults by the Court, and to guarantee the right of children to say the Pledge of Allegiance, among other protections of faith. If we fail at this moment of destiny, we will become a secularized nation like Canada or the continent of Europe, whose laws are based on secular humanism, or worse, on post-modernism, which holds that there is no truth, no basic right or wrong, nothing good or bad, nothing evil or noble, nothing moral or immoral. Law then will be a whimsical standard that shifts with the sands of time." --James C. Dobson
me again
09-01-2003, 06:34 PM
Judge Roy S. Moore, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama:
For half a century the fanciful tailors of revisionist jurisprudence have been working to strip the public sector naked of every vestige of God and morality. They have done so based on fake readings and inconsistent applications of the First Amendment. They have said it is all right for the U. S. Supreme Court to publicly place the Ten Commandments on its walls, for Congress to open in prayer and for state capitols to have chaplains -- as long as the words and ideas communicated by such do not really mean what they purport to communicate. They have trotted out before the public using words never mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, like 'separation of church and state,' to advocate, not the legitimate jurisdictional separation between the church and state, but the illegitimate separation of God and state.:sozo: Whoa, what a phenominal read!!!
:nuke:
Eveningstar
09-08-2003, 01:50 PM
"...[T]oday's Americans would probably not follow brave state leaders to a constitutional showdown anyway. They are enslaved by their own gullibility. They are accustomed to the heavy hand of their federal masters and ignorantly accept their authority as constitutional or divine. They will complain for a while, then adapt to the new chains placed around their necks. What a pity. The Alabama case is such a wonderful opportunity to set things right."
--Douglas Smith
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